How An Artist Can Find Their Tribe by Markus Redmond

How An Artist Can Find Their Tribe by Markus Redmond_filmcourage_creativity

Film Courage:

You said something a moment ago…”find your tribe.” As someone who may have felt like an outsider (and I only say this because I’ve felt like one my entire life), how do you find your tribe? There’s a tendency to want a “glob on to,” meaning you want to fit in with this group because you think that it’s is going to take you where you need to go, but it’s not really a fit. How do you know what your tribe is?

Markus Redmond:

You don’t. You just don’t. You just do what you love, man. It’s all you can do. All you can do is do what you want to do. That’s how you find them. Who those people are gonna be…no idea. But you just have to do what you do. If you do what they do, then you’re chasing their tribe and they’re not necessarily your tribe. So you’re just chasing after people, like you know, people pleasing, which is something I’ve had a problem with the past. You can’t do that. It’s not good for you and it’s not good for them. You’re really wasting everybody’s time when you try to please everybody, you know I mean? I think you just have to do what you do. “Do you” as the kids say.

Film Courage:

That’s interesting. Why isn’t it good for them? I can see why it wouldn’t be good for the individual trying to be the people pleaser, eventually you’ll either let them down and they’ll get mad at you or whatever, but why not for them? Why does people pleasing hurt the group?

Markus:

Why does it hurt the group you’re trying to please? Well, eventually you can keep it up. It’s a lie because you’re basically telling a bunch of people that they can depend on you to do what they want. It’s not what you want. You’re gonna crack eventually and then it’s going to be a waste of their time and your time. So why do it? Who cares? You don’t just have to love what you love. There’s seven billion people on the planet. I guarantee at least three of them love what you love. That’s all you really need. You just need to find three other people like you, that are good, that like what you like. And they’re out there. You just have to do what you do and follow that. The truer you can be to yourself and what you dig, the better I think it is for everybody, because this stuff is hard. It’s not easy to make movies and all this stuff. You might as well love it. If you’re gonna do hard stuff, do hard stuff they’re going to pay you tons of money for. You know what I mean? Go do math.

Film Courage: 

Architecture…

Markus: 

Architecture…go be an architect.  That’s hard but you know they’ll pay a lot of money upfront, it’s better. I think you have to do this because you love it, because it’s burning in you.

Film Courage:

So let’s take an example of someone trying to be a people pleaser as an actor, filmmaker and then another way, to not engage in people pleasing, but still be dependable.

Markus: 

So if you’re an actor or a filmmaker or both you want to be dependable to people you end up working but you don’t want to be a people pleaser.

Film Courage:

Right, what’s an example of each?

Markus: 

I think it’s the same thing, just doing what you love.  Because the thing is, if you love doing something, you’re gonna do it.  People don’t do anything they don’t want to do and they only do what they have to do…

Film Courage:

Well sometimes for a paycheck…

Markus:  

But they have to do that. So outside of that,  you don’t do anything you don’t want to do. If you’re doing something you don’t want to do, it’s because you have to do it.

Film Courage: 

How did you catch yourself being a people pleaser and how did you change it?

Markus: 

I’m still doing it.  You end up in situations where you feel like you want to work with people.  You feel like you’re going to gain something out of that situation.  You feel like it’s going to be mutually beneficial and sometimes it is.  Sometimes it isn’t and sometimes you get in there and it’s just not working.  You have to be able to say “Okay, well it’s not working” You have to take ownership of your own life.  You have to take ownership of what you’re going to do because what other people are going to do that’s what they’re going to do.  You can only control what you are going to do.  What you are capable of, what you love.  So you might as well do this thing you love because you know you’re going to do it and that makes you dependable. If you’re going to do it because you love it, you’re going to run into the people that love the same thing and now it’s mutually beneficial because you’re dependable because you both love the same thing. But if I come to you and I say “Hey, yeah…we’re gonna do this thing, it’s going to be awesome, and you’re like ”Yeah, it’s going to be the best sci-fi horror thing ever and I’m like yeah! And then I go home and I say, “God, I hate sci-fi and horror. And I’m like whatever Karen she know some people and it’s going to be awesome, so I’m going to keep doing it.   It’s not going to be the best that I can do, because I don’t really like it. And you’re going to be like, “Um….I don’t think this works and this works and this works” and I’m going to be like it’s just sci-fi horror, who the hell cares?  You just have to kill people in space. What’s the big deal? And you’re going to be like, “I love this.”  Now you’ve wasted your time, their time, everybody’s time, you know what I mean?

So you don’t do it. You just do the thing you think is awesome.  Not the thing you think is  awesome…or the thing you think other people are going to find awesome.  Do what you think is awesome and then the people who think that thing is awesome will show up, too. Everybody thought Star Wars was just psycho when they first did it.  Look at it now….

Question:  What tips can you add on finding your tribe?

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Special thanks to The House of Magic Foundation for the Arts Theater
This interview was filmed on location at The House of Magic Foundation for the Arts Theater. Check them out at Thomagic.com.

 

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